Thursday, 13 December 2012

Gothic Sanctuary: An Interview with Schoolcraft and Orphan Grinder



This is my full feature that I did for class, with the edited versions of the Schoolcraft and Orphan Grinder interviews. 

When I was a young, impressionable teenager, I learned about the glory of alternative music. With the help of the internet I listened to bands that never had, and most likely never would be played on the radio. Punk and Goth were my personal favourites, and in high school I discovered bands like Nine Inch Nails, Joy Division, and the Misfits. The internet was my major source, through social media and through music downloading I found what would one day be my favourite bands. This music shaped who I am today. 
                The world of music has changed so much since then. Music downloading seems to be more of a rule than an exception, and bands have to find new and creative ways to get noticed. According to some people, the internet has made this easier; anyone can upload their music and put themselves out there rather than having to be discovered. But that also brings the danger of too many voices crying out for attention. The Goth music scene has considered itself separate from this for a long time. It used to be that they were the ones getting by underground, through tape trading, shows in tiny clubs, and word of mouth. Now the internet has created a worldwide underground for every genre. It seems that today, even the weirdoes, with our black clothes, piercings, tattoos, strange hair, and even stranger music, don’t stand out the way we used to. 

                Just a week before Halloween, I returned to my roots to watch a show of up-and coming Goth bands. The Café Dekcuf bar in Ottawa was perfectly lit for the show, meaning it was nearly pitch black, and the stage was decorated with pumpkins. Every band sounded a little different. Goth can have the operatic vocals, soft piano, harp and strings of Schoolcraft, headed by Lindz Riot, the solo act of Goth/metal band Mary and the Black Lamb. Lindz is a beauty with long, flowing black hair. I know that’s a cliché, but there is seriously no other way to describe it. Her songs paint a picture of beauty in darkness, an angel in a graveyard, on an epic scale. 


                Outside the graveyard, there is the cyber-industrial, dystopian wasteland where Orphan Grinder lives. Started by Riley Eichler and Aaron Wallis, they recently welcomed members Myke Guerin and Ethan Moseley, formerly of Promonium Jesters and Adaptive Reaction. Orphan Grinder uses computers as well as guitars, drums, and even trash cans to create a unique industrial sound that’s perfect for tearing it up in the mosh pit. And I guarantee, there will be a mosh pit at one of their shows. 

Riley Eichler and Aaron Wallis of Orphan Grinder

                I talked to both of these bands, and got some of their opinions about the Goth scene today, the music industry, and how those things connect. What I got was two very different bands existing in the same world, doing things their own way. 

I started with touring. Both bands have traveled across provinces for their shows, but started in Ontario, with Schoolcraft from Oshawa and Orphan Grinder from St. Thomas. How does a band find venues to play at?  

“At first we had to book venues ourselves. Word travelled, and we started to get invited to play shows.” Said Orphan Grinder.  I asked them if they thought bigger, more mainstream bands had it better touring than they did, and they talked about the ups and downs. “Touring can be awesome, but it can also suck. You don’t get much sleep, and it can be expensive. We don’t have a road crew.” As for the more mainstream bands: “At least we don’t hate each other. We’re all still friends.”

For Schoolcraft, Lindz Riot had experience touring with a band as well as solo. I asked about the differences in size for a solo act like Schoolcraft, versus a band of four people like Orphan Grinder.  "Honestly when Mary and the Black Lamb toured last year it was quite the clusterfuck with three cars and everyone wanting to have their own schedule. It has been so much easier with just me and Scotty B. (Her drummer) We also have a lot more fun not having to worry about where everyone else is and if they are gonna show up on time. Soon we will have an additional string player, but that's about it. Still a small set up for the stage."

I asked them about their specific genres of music, not just the Goth genre but their own individual sound. What did they think of the Canadian Goth/alternative music community today? Orphan Grinder was sure of their identity in the world. “Our artistic vision is ‘fuck you.’ Everything out there sounds the same. Our sound is angry, crunchy. We don’t fit into labels.”

Schoolcraft has collaborated with some other bands for their first EP. "I think it’s a great group of people to work with. There are some select cult groups who aren't too social, but that's ok. I just admire their nice clothes from afar. It has dwindled down the last 5 years. I would like to see more Goth/alternative acts in the scene, but that will come with time if people decide it is a creative outlet for them again."

Then came the question of labels. Today the music community seems to be divided about their usefulness, and I got two different perspectives from Orphan Grinder and Schoolcraft. Both bands have EPs currently available, but Schoolcraft is signed to Arcane Records, while Orphan Grinder put theirs out independently. It was two very different processes I wanted to know more about.

For Orphan Grinder, “Our approach has been DIY since the beginning. The EP was a slow process; we recorded it ourselves, all in a home studio. New technology makes it easier, makes the equipment more affordable.  For bands today, an iPhone is easier than 16 thousand dollars of equipment at a recording studio.”

                While for Schoolcraft, "Mine took forever because I had 2 producers fall through. I started the project 2 years ago this month and only got recording in January of this year. We started with piano, then orchestral structuring and programming. That part was done completely over the internet because Daedalus (of Deadalean Complex) lives in Quebec City and driving nine hours is quite time consuming and expensive with gas. So Skype really helped on that process. Then we went onto harp tracking and then cello tracking with Kitty Thompson of Johnny Hollow, who is a treat to work with. Finally we did the vocals and all of the tracking was done at The Recording House in Scarborough with Sean Gregory. The hardest part was waiting on the mixing and mastering. Even though it took a month it felt like forever!"

I wanted to know their opinions about labels, how they can help or hinder a band. “Being signed to a label makes no difference to us. We don’t fit into labels. They hinder you more than they help. We like it better having no rules; we wouldn’t listen to what a label says.” Said Orphan Grinder. But would they ever sign to a label, if it was offered? After some deliberation among the band, they decided.  “We’d let a label help us with manufacturing and distribution, but we can record it ourselves.”

Schoolcraft, who is already signed to a label, gave me a different perspective. According to her, being with a label has helped. "In many, many ways. First starting off with saving my sanity. It's nice to have another head in the game on the same level as you. This way the work load is taken off my shoulders and because of it I have been able to focus more on my writing and image. This was hard to do in the past because I was also managing my projects."

Talking about labels and EPs, we turned to the topic of CDs versus downloading, and some of the questions plaguing the music industry today.  Are CD’s dying out? Orphan Grinder doesn’t think so right now, but maybe in the future. “CD’s are better for data storage than downloaded songs. For bands, they’re more of a networking tool. In terms of sales, CD’s are better than shows. But in the next 5 years, CDs will be gone.” 

And what about online piracy? Everyone has an opinion about it, but I wanted to see it from the point of view of a band. Schoolcraft says, "I am on the fence about it. If it helps me get my name out there for the first release then sure that helps. But once it’s my third or fourth release it would be nice to see some funds for touring and more releases down the road. The fans just can't expect me to reach them or get my music out faster if they aren't supporting the cause financially. I have found stems for torrents on the EP already with great tags in them. I also understand that in some countries it is impossible for some fans to order music online or even access visas or make pay pal accounts. I do not mind them getting my music for free. As long as they show up to my concert once I make it out there. That's more important to me."

                Orphan Grinder knew exactly how they felt about it. “Steal our music!” They talked about the internet, and how it’s helped them and other bands today. “The internet has made things easier, but it also means more competition. It’s helped us find like-minded people. Everyone can benefit from it, if they do it right. Record companies don’t see it that way; they just want to make a profit. People will pay eventually, if you put out a good product.”

                I asked Schoolcraft how she used the internet with her music. "I think it's because of the internet that I have gotten as far as I am. That being said, I have good friends who believe in me and have helped me out. Also you can't forget Facebook and Twitter! It's all about who you talk to and network with. I am a strong believer in writing good music because that is what will travel the farthest."
So, overall, how does Orphan Grinder feel about where they are? “Overall we’re happy, but it would be better if it paid more. (Laughs.) We have to have fun now; we’re too old to keep waiting.”

 
Schoolcraft talked about her plans for the future. "This Christmas holiday I will be entirely committed to writing and forming my second full length release for Schoolcraft. I am very excited about this and am itching to get started, but I first have to finish up with school and make sure the first EP still gets some decent press and exposure. I have a different vision for Schoolcraft now: a darker, heavier one. The first EP was some songs I needed to get out of my system that were mostly sad ballads. I had a rough year last year and have climbed over man hurdles and mountains emotionally and mentally. My next set of songs really do reflect my stories from that. There will be an addition of a new instrument which I think will complete my sound and set me apart. Wish me luck because it’s going to be an interesting whole new experience for me." 

EP Cover by Gogo Melone
What draws me to Goth as a genre is the variety within it, not just in sound but in attitude. I think Orphan Grinder and Schoolcraft show this perfectly, giving me two completely different perspectives on music today. When I began these interviews I had some of my own opinions, but learning from them has given me better informed opinions. And of course, I had a great time at the show. I thoroughly recommend either of these bands for anyone who loves music and loves a good performance. Goth music may live in the crypt, but the crypt could always use more bodies.

For more info about Schoolcraft, visit her Reverbnation, or Facebook
For more info about Orphan Grinder, visit their Reverbnation, or Facebook

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